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Old 07-25-2008, 03:45 PM
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Default Help - what is the proper vacuum advance unit?

The vacuum advance diaphragm on my 1959 430 with original distributor is shot. The actuating arm on the one that came out of my car is straight while the arms on all the replacement units that I can find are curved. For instance, Rock auto has AIRTEX Part # 4V1110 for to 7.0L engine, but the arm is curved. Will this one work on the orignal distributor? If not, can someone direct me to a source for the right vacuum advance unit.

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Old 07-25-2008, 05:36 PM
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Curved arm is correct for the 1960 430 original distributor. I would think that the 1959 would be the same.
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Old 07-26-2008, 05:10 AM
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I believe this-



-is what you need.

To be 100% sure, one needs to cross-reference the Dist. I.D. Stamping No. on the bowl in the MPC (I only go back to 1960) to find the correct PN (Basic PN 12370).

As I remember, this same cannister fit a 58 EDSEL 410 another fellow was searching for.
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Old 07-26-2008, 08:52 AM
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Kultulz - YES! that is the part I need. Now to find it. I'll try the basic part number you provided. Does anyone else know of a source?

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Old 07-26-2008, 01:09 PM
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On my 59 430 is curved.You need to check numbers on yours to see if that is the right one for it.Tom
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My search for the vacuum advance showed me that this isn't as easy as it would seem. My distributor part number is FEW-12127-H. As far as I've been able to determine the vacuum advance part number I need is B9MF-12370-A(?) or B9AF 12370-A. Anyhow, I did find a FF 314 vacuum chamber on e-bid and bought it. This should be quite a challenge if figuring out the correct number for every part I need gets so confusing.

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Old 07-26-2008, 05:39 PM
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Kultulz - YES! that is the part I need. Now to find it. I'll try the basic part number you provided. Does anyone else know of a source?

Thanks, Vern
I am not 100% sure that is the correct cannister. It's FORD PN puts it at a 57 FORD V8 (Y-BLOCK). You need to find your DIST. I.D. NO. on the bowl housing below the cap and then cross-reference that in the 49/59 FORD MPC to get the correct SERVICE PART NUMBER.

Then you need to find if the PN is still serviced via FORD or aftermarket or see if you have to find a NOS unit. The correct PN is imperative.
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Old 07-27-2008, 09:43 PM
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Unhappy 430 Vacuum Advance - another searcher and more info

I have an original 430 J-bird. My vacuum advance is shot also. My car has distributor part # B9MF12127-B, with vacuum advance part # B9AF12378. NAPA and Rockauto list a replacement for the advance, but it is NOT like original. It is a one-pieces sealed unit with a 1/8" smooth nipple (for rubber hose). If anyone knows a source for the correct advance please post here - looks like this is a common problem. My pictures show the parts, note the curved arm.

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http://s312.photobucket.com/albums/l...istributor.jpg

http://s312.photobucket.com/albums/l...0_vacuum_1.jpg

http://s312.photobucket.com/albums/l...0_vacuum_2.jpg
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Old 07-29-2008, 07:55 PM
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I found a vacuum advance today that works. Went to a junk yard that had about 5 58-60 Thunderbirds in various states of decomposition. These have been out in the rain and snow with open windows and hoods for who knows how many years. Pulled the vacuum advance off of a 1960 352, part number FEW-12370-A because it had the right actuating arm. This seemed like a good match for my FEW-12127-H distributor (I know I need to get the MPC to look up the right part number). The crazy rusty looking thing actually still works and better yet, works in my car. It actually accelerates now when I hit the gas. Now I need to spend some quality time performing a proper tune up to ensure it is set correctly. Also got a bunch of other miscellaneous parts including a power steering pump, hub cap, power window motors, tail light lens screws, windshield washer nozzles, and even a washer fluid bag that is still flexible! ..all for $50.

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Nice. How about posting up an address/phone # to that place?
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