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Old 07-26-2016, 01:43 AM
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Looking for some opinions on the effect of changing exterior paint color. I just don't like the color of my car. It needs paint but is in good shape otherwise. Some people have told me that I will damage the value while others indicate that it might enhance the value. Are there any guidelines to the value diminution of painting a different color (ie ..10%, 20%)? Does it matter if the new color was issued in the same year? I don't want to change.... but I have to like my car don't I? Isn't a beautiful brunette just as beautiful if she becomes a blonde? Lastly, does changing interior color have a quantifiable effect? Am I way over thinking this? Opinions would sure be appreciated.
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Old 07-26-2016, 03:11 AM
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Hi Brad. This topic has been covered many times. Most of us feel that it's your car, therefore do what you want with it if it pleases you. If you're planning on keeping the Bird indefinitely, change the color & enjoy. What color is it now? & what color change is in mind? At times, if the color combo is changed & looks good it can improve the value. How long have you had the Bird?

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Old 07-26-2016, 09:25 AM
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Hey Chris
Sorry if this has already been beaten to death - did a search but perhaps used the wrong words. I have a Chantilly Beige 64 Convertible with Black interior. I have had it for more than 20 years and had neither the skill nor the money to do the restoration. I still lack the skill but have some funds to devote to it now. I would like to end up Samoan Coral with a white interior. The question arises as there a Samoan Coral 64 for sale? Wondering if I should buy the new car and sell the old or if I should just remake the old car. I truly have no intention of selling upon completion - but life happens and don't want to make an uninformed decision I may regret later. Appreciate the input.
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Old 07-26-2016, 10:18 AM
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Brad as Chris stated it is your classic to do what you want but here are a couple of things to consider:
1) Is the current exterior colour original? Is the current interior original?
2) If YES then it is an original classic and can be sold as such.
3) If you are tired of the colour exterior or interior ( which Chantilly Beige was famous on the Mustangs as well with black interior ) then perhaps it is time to sell.

4) You have had it for 20 years. Time to get a new gal of your choice
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Old 07-26-2016, 11:10 AM
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Definitely agree with previous posts - your car so do what it takes to make you happy. These aren't high dollar collector Dusenberg's or Bugatti's demanding perfection, and you should enjoy it. Quality of workmanship is a bigger factor than originality of color in my opinion.

Another thought, if you buy a different car the color of your liking, you will have instant gratification and not have to go through many months of the restoration process. Time is money and these cars should be driven and enjoyed! Best of luck which ever way you go.
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Your chances of finding a '64 convertible in coral is not very high. I think I've only seen one in over 40 years. If that's the color you want then go ahead and paint it. Just be aware that it's not a color that appeals to everyone so you may be limiting your market if you decide to sell it. However I wouldn't let that stop me if it was my car.

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Hi Brad, having your Bird for over 20 years must really mean something to you. If you're happy with it in every way other than the color combo I'd keep it. You obviously know it mechanically inside out, & the money that you have spent on it. What would the cost be there to change color, exterior, interior, & possibly the top? around $8-12 Gs. Here in Australia we'd be looking around twice as much. If it were mine I'd go with Turquoise Blue exterior, & White interior & top. Send us a Pic of your Bird.
How old are you? just curious.

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Samoan Coral is so rare, Thunderbird restorers used to pay high dollar for a Patent Plate with that color code. Those original cars are VERY valuable. They used to comb bone yards just for the Patent Plates, decades ago.

Having said that, I really don't care for the color at all and neither did the original Thunderbird owners. The reason they are so rare is because nobody ordered that ugly color.

Sure, you can paint with any color but what are your expectations? If you think this color will increase the value, it will not unless your Patent Plate and matching VIN numbers support those paint and trim codes. If you love the color, hey, it's your car for YOU to enjoy.

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Hi Guys:

Thanks for the input. Trying to figure out how to post pictures and will do so soon. Sent the bird to NH for repair this weekend and pulled her out of the garage. I took a few snaps before she left.
Clearly there is a diversity of opinion on the topic. All of what has been said I agree with except SimplyConnected who offers great history and insight but obviously doesn't know a great color when he sees it. My car is Chantilly beige with probably the original paint - perhaps an over spray on the trunk only. It has black original interior in pretty good shape.
Truly, I am not attempting to create value. I happen to just love the look of the T-Bird and always have. I love the lines and I particularly love the Flair Birds. To me they blend the classic traditions of the Square Birds, which I love, with a sleek sophisticated modern look. I have come to the point in life where I can afford a "Muscle Car" but they just don't do it for me. I appreciate the muscular stance of the late 60's Camaro's but I am always drawn back to the T-Birds. Perhaps they will never attain the price level of their later counterparts from GM, but I don't care- shouldn't I like what I drive?
In part I suppose that is why I am contemplating a color change. I don't look at the hood of my car and love it. I do look at the color of the Samoan Coral and it makes me happy - but oddly I feel a bit like a traitor for even contemplating the change. I know - it is a car - but as I think Chris from Oz was alluding perhaps am suffering some psychological attachment issues.
Really not sure what all will cost me. Figuring paint at 10K chrome and interior another 6k. Am guessing mechanical another 4 to 5K and I may be light with all of that. I suppose the original question stemmed from not wanting to invest $25K and have it be worth $5K because I changed the color. (I know SimplyConnected wouldn't give me $5K if I painted it Samoan Coral)
There was a Samoan Coral on ebay this past week and I inquired about it but did not pull the trigger and it seems to be gone now. They were asking $28,900 for it. My choice is now original color or change - it seems the third option was foreclosed. Alas, I suppose my dilemma is a good one to have.

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I guess you have seen this example
http://topclassiccarsforsale.com/for...low-miles.html
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