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I am looking for some photos or advice on removing a Rear Quarter PW switch. The window is stuck in the UP position, and I don't hear to motor engaging. Before I start removing the interior rear quarter panel, I want to check the switch connections, maybe spray a little contact spray on there....if that doesn't work, then checking the circuit breaker, and so on....but let's start with the switch.

Is there any special tool required? Does it "twist off" or "pop off"? Shop Manual is not clear on this.
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To correctly remove the switch you need to remove the trim panel. You can try prying it out but I wouldn't recommend it. If it doesn't work from the switch on the door either then it's probably not the rear switch.

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Ok, that's what I was afraid of. I'll post pics today and see how I make out!
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Ok, For anyone who wants to know how to go through this, here is what I did:

I removed the Rear Quarter Trim Panel to expose the switch and all connections.



I then used a test light to see if I am getting any current.





I tested from both switches and I get voltage just fine all the way to the motor. I did a second check using a meter, and it was 12v and ample, so I am guessing my motor is shot.

I followed all the instructions in the shop manual as well, but the one thing I didn't find (and I check the opposite side) was the 15A ground circuit breaker. I checked under the mats and followed all the harnesses back to the dash....Can someone tell me where those circuit breakers on the ground are supposed to be?

It's on the wiring diagram....
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The circuit breakers should be under the back seat. They get bolted to the floor. It's on the black ground wire. That looks like it in your top picture.

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HI John:

I never imagined them being bolted to the floor! I thought that was just the ground for the black wire. Ok, thanks for pointing that out.

However, since I am getting voltage to the motor, I am assuming that the motor is still the culprit. If the circuit breaker was bad, I wouldn't see a signal, correct?

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Where are you grounding your test light. If you are grounding it directly to the black wire then the circuit breaker is good and the motor is most likely bad. If you are grounding it to the car body then the circuit breaker could still be bad. Ground your test light directly to the lug where the black wire is connected.

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Where are you grounding your test light. If you are grounding it directly to the black wire then the circuit breaker is good and the motor is most likely bad. If you are grounding it to the car body then the circuit breaker could still be bad. Ground your test light directly to the lug where the black wire is connected.

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I am going to do that RIGHT NOW! I'll update shortly. That is a great suggestion!

Follow-up: It's the motor...I even tried tapping it a little bit with a rubber mallet....no love....so....I'll see if I can find a thread if someone has done this, but when I searched earlier, nothing...and of course the shop manual says "replace motor" but not how....but I love this!
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Here's the link to the article in the Technical Resource Library on rebuilding window motors. Even though it explains how to rebuild a 1960 motor the 1961-3 motors are similar.

http://squarebirds.org/images_motor-...dow/index2.htm

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Yes, If I can get it out today, I'll do the rebuild myself. I will put the car back together so we can drive it in the mean time though! Don't want it out of action!
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