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    So on the swap to 390

    When I am looking for the parts to match it up with my cruis-o-matic how would I identify the parts to the part store? Speaking of flywheel and pressure plate?
  • jopizz
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    • Nov 23 2009
    • 8345

    #2
    Automatic transmissions don't have a flywheel and pressure plate; just a flexplate. You want one with 184 teeth if you are going to use the newer type starter. Most Fords from 1966 and up used the newer flexplate/starter combo. One from a 1966 Thunderbird will work.

    John
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    • Guest

      #3
      Ok

      so pressure plate. Is this the only thing that would need to be found for the trans to match up? As you can see, I am a newbie with anything much beyond basic maintenance, and so sourcing parts from different years I am not sure what I need to be telling these folks. "I need a 390 pressure plate that will work with cruise o matic"....will just get me eyeballed at most stores since they are sourcing parts via a part number or year make and model vehicle specific. Run into this a bunch trying to get parts for my dodge RV motor from the 70's. Closest parts store for me is forty miles each way, so I am trying to save running back and forth like a crazy person if I can...

      So basically I am telling them I need an alternator and starter for a early seventies F series truck as well as a pressure plate for a 390 to a Cruise o matic? Or would the starter need to be an earlier Thunderbird specific model which came equipped with a 390?

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      • jopizz
        Super-Experienced


        • Nov 23 2009
        • 8345

        #4
        You need a flexplate, not a pressure plate. Just go into your local auto parts store and tell them you need a flexplate for a 1966 Thunderbird with a 390. Here's the one you want from NAPA.



        John
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        • Guest

          #5
          Thanks

          The listed trans for that year is a C6 is that ok? Would the starter also be a 66? The block looks to have a built on mount for the alternator guessing I would go with the 70"s truck alternator to make sure it fits? ....I know I am asking a bunch of questions, but I have never swapped or built an engine, and I am really wanting to get more familiar without completely screwing the job up. I have to do things to learn them, so without a qualified person to guide me I would need to just rely on the shop manual which, while great, does leave a bunch to be desired in the details department.
          Last edited by Guest; March 25, 2015, 03:00 PM.

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          • jopizz
            Super-Experienced


            • Nov 23 2009
            • 8345

            #6
            Yes, get the starter for a 1966 Thunderbird also. I assume you have the bolts and the mounting ring to mount the flexplate to the crankshaft.

            John
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            • Guest

              #7
              Hmmm

              Originally posted by jopizz
              Yes, get the starter for a 1966 Thunderbird also. I assume you have the bolts and the mounting ring to mount the flexplate to the crankshaft.

              John
              Not unless they will swap from the 352...

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              • jopizz
                Super-Experienced


                • Nov 23 2009
                • 8345

                #8
                Yes, the mounting ring and the bolts are the same as the 352. I just wanted to make sure that you had them.

                John
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                • Guest

                  #9
                  Yes, next learning opportunity is

                  Originally posted by jopizz
                  Yes, the mounting ring and the bolts are the same as the 352. I just wanted to make sure that you had them.

                  John
                  Rebuilding the 352.

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