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  • Xorbia
    Newbie
    • Sep 16 2017
    • 4

    Engine Identification

    My 59 Tbird coupe is a H code.
    THe number 4020 is on the left side of the engine.
    I can't find any info (so far) on this number.
    Can anyone advise?
    Would like to be sure the engine is a 352.
    Many thanks.
  • Woobie
    Experienced
    • Apr 1 2016
    • 146

    #2
    The casting number for the engine block is on the passenger side behing the generator. From lying on the floor the numbers will be upside down.

    Then there will be casting numbers for the cylinder heads as well as the intake manifold.

    If that is what you were asking.
    Austin

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    • Woobie
      Experienced
      • Apr 1 2016
      • 146

      #3
      Originally posted by Xorbia
      My 59 Tbird coupe is a H code.
      THe number 4020 is on the left side of the engine.
      I can't find any info (so far) on this number.
      Can anyone advise?
      Would like to be sure the engine is a 352.
      Many thanks.

      Guess we'll never know
      Austin

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      • Joe Johnston
        Super-Experienced
        • Dec 23 2008
        • 720

        #4
        You can roughly measure the stroke with out tearing the engine down by using a plastic straw through the spark plug holes. Mark and measure the distance when piston is at bottom of stroke. Going from memory (which is always a bad thing in my case) I think a 352 will measure about 3.5" to the spark plug and a 390 is about 3.75". PLEASE Google the stroke length and how to do this as I am probably wrong and hopefully someone else on the forum will correct me!

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        • jopizz
          Super-Experienced


          • Nov 23 2009
          • 8346

          #5
          Joe is correct about the measurements. That's the easiest way to tell what cubic in. engine you have. I use a wooden dowel but anything similar will work.

          John
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          • GTE427
            Super-Experienced
            • Oct 9 2007
            • 602

            #6
            In this case where he is trying to confirm the 352 in a 1959. If the date code indicates a 1959 casting, by default this wouldn't be a 390 as they didn't exist in 1959, whereas both blocks existed in the sixties. Not sure of the 332, thinking this was a 1958 engine. Suggesting this quick method vs measuring stroke. Does this make sense.
            Ken
            1959 J Convertible
            1960 J Hardtop

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            • jopizz
              Super-Experienced


              • Nov 23 2009
              • 8346

              #7
              Originally posted by Xorbia
              Would like to be sure the engine is a 352.
              This is what he originally posted. It sounded like he was unsure of exactly what he had or if it had been replaced at one time.

              John
              John Pizzi - Squarebirds Administrator

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              • Joe Johnston
                Super-Experienced
                • Dec 23 2008
                • 720

                #8
                Would like to be sure the engine is a 352.
                Good to see I had a few functioning memory cells. Did a bit of googling and found a rough measurement of the stroke for a possible 332 would be about 3.25". As mentioned easy enough to get an opinion with out tear down by roughly measuring.

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                • simplyconnected
                  Administrator
                  • May 26 2009
                  • 8787

                  #9
                  I agree with all about measuring the stroke. Here are the differences in FE engine strokes:

                  332 cu in (5.4 L) FE 3.300 in (83.8 mm)
                  352 cu in (5.8 L) FE 3.500 in (88.9 mm)
                  390 cu in (6.4 L) FE 3.784 in (96.1 mm)

                  Notice they are all nearly 1/4" different. So, put your timing marks on TDC and pull both #1 and #4 spark plugs. Use a stiff rod. Stick it down each cylinder and mark it. Measure between your marks for the stroke because when #1 is up, #4 is down.

                  1/4" is actually quite a bit. You can tell if your marks are over 3.3" or over 3.5". - Dave
                  Member, Sons of the American Revolution

                  CLICK HERE to see my custom hydraulic roller 390 FE build.

                  "We've got to pause and ask ourselves: How much clean air do we need?"
                  --Lee Iacocca

                  From: Royal Oak, Michigan

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                  • pbf777
                    Experienced
                    • Jan 9 2016
                    • 282

                    #10
                    The date code as cast in the block may be found on the external surface above the pan rail and below the oil filter adapter (left/driver's side). Often caked in sludge deposits and even once cleaned may still be illegible due to poor casting. This would provide the date in which the block was cast, build dates generally followed within several weeks (3-6 wk.?).

                    Scott.

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                    • GTE427
                      Super-Experienced
                      • Oct 9 2007
                      • 602

                      #11
                      A commonly used interchange is the FE 360, 3.50 stroke.
                      Less commonly used interchange is the FE 330 & 361, 3.50 stroke.

                      To be certain on an assembled engine, casting numbers & measurements should be used.
                      Ken
                      1959 J Convertible
                      1960 J Hardtop

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                      • Woobie
                        Experienced
                        • Apr 1 2016
                        • 146

                        #12
                        Originally posted by GTE427
                        A commonly used interchange is the FE 360, 3.50 stroke.


                        To be certain on an assembled engine, casting numbers & measurements should be used.

                        Forgot about the 360. 352 stroke 390 pistons. And also very plentiful considering an FE.
                        Austin

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                        • Xorbia
                          Newbie
                          • Sep 16 2017
                          • 4

                          #13
                          Been out of action for a while. Thanks for info supplied, much appreciated.
                          Will review shortly.

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                          • NC Tbird
                            Experienced
                            • May 17 2021
                            • 136

                            #14
                            Dumb question:
                            What engine code is a 1960 352ci ?
                            Is it a "Y" or an "H" ?
                            Other?

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                            • jopizz
                              Super-Experienced


                              • Nov 23 2009
                              • 8346

                              #15
                              352 - "Y"
                              430 - "J"

                              John
                              Last edited by jopizz; August 23, 2023, 09:53 AM.
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